tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post5955555978533583411..comments2012-05-08T00:50:28.002-04:00Comments on Lazeez's Corner: Final DecisionsLazeezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11172585468675496098noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-69153704832787384442006-12-10T14:07:00.000-05:002006-12-10T14:07:00.000-05:00This discussion is getting silly. I'm locking out ...This discussion is getting silly. I'm locking out comments.Lazeezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11172585468675496098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-20994315526810339062006-12-10T13:54:00.000-05:002006-12-10T13:54:00.000-05:00cmsix said:
zfnievzb"No respect for anonymous crit...cmsix said:<br />zfnievzb"No respect for anonymous critical people.." ?<br /><br /><br />If that's the case, and a nym isn't good enough for Lord Whatsit. <br /><br />-------<br /><br />Riigght... and give the trolls a target and be cannon fodder, especially when they are being encouraged with "I'm going to quit writing[/posting/...] if I don't see you vote" kind of notes from some of the writersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-42975068879144546572006-12-10T13:00:00.000-05:002006-12-10T13:00:00.000-05:00"No respect for anonymous critical people.." ?
Si..."No respect for anonymous critical people.." ?<br /><br />Signing "rougher63" doesn't really make you any less anonymous.<br /><br />But if it makes you feel any better, I should have signed the previous post as "LordGarth" (as if it makes any difference).<br /><br />LordGarth :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-91902393447632118842006-12-10T12:29:00.000-05:002006-12-10T12:29:00.000-05:00I looked through the authors' favorite stories. To...I looked through the authors' favorite stories. To me, it's a validation of the longer term worth of a story. A story scored above 9.5 that didn't make on a number of favorite lists, probably shouldn't be 9.5<br /><br />None of my stories are listed or deserve to be. It's kind of incredible to see all the scores above the classics like Aftermath, or Downey's etc.<br /><br />I understand cmsix. I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-17450745621872202572006-12-10T11:54:00.000-05:002006-12-10T11:54:00.000-05:00This happened to me yesterday, and I think it show...This happened to me yesterday, and I think it shows why the scores get inflated.<br /><br />I finished reading a story that had been on my "to read eventually" list for a long time. I very much liked the story, but it was not without its flaws. It had a fair amount of grammatical errors, and the plot was a bit too "over the top". However, the sex was very hot, the characterization was good, and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-88384518847641376502006-12-10T10:27:00.000-05:002006-12-10T10:27:00.000-05:00As a relatively new author, this scoring change do...As a relatively new author, this scoring change doesn't bother me.<br /><br />One of my longer stories will get affected. One of my current stories will get affected.<br /><br />As long as everyone's affected (older stories less so, as noted) I don't mind, and it's not really my say, is it? It's Laz'.<br /><br />I like a high score, I'm competitive by nature. I like high download counts. I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-77771299574072663092006-12-10T10:17:00.000-05:002006-12-10T10:17:00.000-05:00I tend to read slow so I down load all the stories...I tend to read slow so I down load all the stories I read. If the voting box at the end of the stories would connect back into the site I would vote on most all of the stories.<br /><br />ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-75920368109318932232006-12-10T10:06:00.000-05:002006-12-10T10:06:00.000-05:00For the reviewers idea, look at how most of the re...For the reviewers idea, look at how most of the reviwers score stories. Most of them don't have the balls to say anything negative.<br /><br />The #1 reviewer has reviewed 129 stories to date. 86% of the scores they has give out for "appeal to reviewer" were 10's.<br /><br />The #2 reviwer has done 112 reviews. Only on 46% of their reviews did they give a 10.<br /><br />The #3 reviwer has beenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-15383233126800771132006-12-10T09:38:00.000-05:002006-12-10T09:38:00.000-05:00Yes, the scoring changes will make things differen...Yes, the scoring changes will make things different for everyone. But the runaway scores have become a joke on the readers, and worthless.<br /><br />So what if your score plummets? Was it ever a true indication of how a story was? Stories have a 9.8 score after the first chapter has been posted, with nothing done other than possibly whetting our appetite. How could any reasonable person Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-24487038195044224382006-12-10T09:20:00.000-05:002006-12-10T09:20:00.000-05:00Well, well, well. So there will be some changes.
...Well, well, well. So there will be some changes.<br /><br />I don't think it will do much. I think Gina's observation is correct and very relevant. Old stories in the old system will weather the changes much easily than the new stories will.<br /><br />There's no real improvement per se. The core problems aren't addressed. Scores are still useless as an indicator of material that's worth the timeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-11939576137591571872006-12-10T09:06:00.000-05:002006-12-10T09:06:00.000-05:00Lazeez,
First of all thanks for maintaining SOL, ...Lazeez,<br /><br />First of all thanks for maintaining SOL, in spite of all the headaches that it brings.<br /><br />Personally, if I had gotten the type of public feedback you have with the changes you planned to try to make this a better site I would likely have saved the stats under the old scoring system on Dec 31, 2006 (maybe temporarily pulling the site off-line to get all the stats saved.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-5507476031511965272006-12-10T02:37:00.000-05:002006-12-10T02:37:00.000-05:00Pleasure Boy 1 says:
The general consensus seems ...<b>Pleasure Boy 1 says:</b><br /><br />The general consensus seems to be thumbs up for the new system. Though it'll take time to adjust to, in the long run things will be more even, balanced, and accurate.<br /><br />cmsix and Gina are having some difficulty with it. All I can say to them and anyone else is, keep writing top quality stuff and the cream will rise to the top no matter what the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-17736719915443718922006-12-10T01:02:00.000-05:002006-12-10T01:02:00.000-05:00As a suggestion for the wording change on the voti...As a suggestion for the wording change on the voting forms... drop 'Fair' from the list, shift every description down by one (so Average becomes five, and Excellent 9) and 10 can be Perfect. or Best Story Ever. <br /><br />Certainly, there will still be both trolls and cheerleaders, but if the median score drops by less than one, at least it'll become obvious which group is more of a problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-64438214217857045012006-12-10T00:50:00.000-05:002006-12-10T00:50:00.000-05:00Lazeez,
I'll keep this short, as pretty much ever...Lazeez,<br /><br />I'll keep this short, as pretty much everything I wanted to say has already been said (cf. alan, old fart, stormy weather, john smith, mocha1120, et al....).<br /><br />If you can *stand* any more advice, I think jean d'amour's suggestion would be wonderful if it's practical -- sort of like a StoriesOnLine equivelent of the Nebula. Maybe after the dust has settled?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-84876805538890702522006-12-09T23:53:00.000-05:002006-12-09T23:53:00.000-05:00I realize that I am not too bright, but why would ...I realize that I am not too bright, but why would trying to develop a voting system that means anything cause readers and authors to leave? What is there in change that so frightens the likes of cmsix? I have enjoyed some of his writings and emailed my appreciation to him. <br /><br />I do not understand all the new changes taking effect, but I believe that I can learn.<br /><br />Will the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-66643041349952641032006-12-09T22:56:00.000-05:002006-12-09T22:56:00.000-05:00First I would like to than Lazeez for the site, I ...First I would like to than Lazeez for the site, I have had many years of enjoyable entertainment from it. <br />A couple of thoughts on this, first how many of you actually wait to see the "scores" on a storey before you read it? <br />I check the New Stories section at least daily, where more than half the stories have no score. <br />I pick what I want to read by story codes, or the author Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-2959364085988315472006-12-09T22:20:00.000-05:002006-12-09T22:20:00.000-05:00Lazeez
Thanks for all you do to make this a great...Lazeez<br /><br />Thanks for all you do to make this a great site.<br /><br />Six<br /><br />You are such a pudZ! You're crying because this site has always been your personal roost to crow from. I have seen you admit you posted skinny chapters of J&A just to drive up the number of downloads.<br /><br />Well you won't be the download king here anymore. Crawl your sniveling ass back to the Lonely Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-64053997772046881992006-12-09T21:44:00.000-05:002006-12-09T21:44:00.000-05:00I won't begin to understand the math behind the ch...I won't begin to understand the math behind the changes. I suppose that's why I drive truck part-time.<br /><br />For the last two plus years I have found SoL to be a wonderful site to read and post to. I will continue to do so.<br /><br />Well Done.<br /><br />Allen WilsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-6663507217981376742006-12-09T20:44:00.000-05:002006-12-09T20:44:00.000-05:00Lazeez,
Being a lazy bastard like El-Sol, I haven'...Lazeez,<br />Being a lazy bastard like El-Sol, I haven't been paying attention to the proposed voting changes. So I emerge, blinking, from my cave like Rip Van Winkle to find that a storm of controversy has been raging while I slept.<br /><br />Personally, I have no problem with whatever voting system you choose, other than to say, if it's too complicated, people won't use it. Whatever sytem Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-9662516883819294272006-12-09T20:16:00.000-05:002006-12-09T20:16:00.000-05:00I for one will miss reading CMSIX's stuff. I migh...I for one will miss reading CMSIX's stuff. I might not have agreed with him on this subject, but I'm sorry to see him go.<br /><br />Best wishes, CM6.<br /><br />ksKlaude Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12110877142463499423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-44070272673108885292006-12-09T20:08:00.000-05:002006-12-09T20:08:00.000-05:00Lazeez,
I thought you had to be over 18 to be com...Lazeez,<br /><br />I thought you had to be over 18 to be come to SOL. Nice to see the level of imaturity of some people writting comments here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-85591833715499536722006-12-09T17:12:00.000-05:002006-12-09T17:12:00.000-05:00I think that it will work out OK. I am glad to se...I think that it will work out OK. I am glad to see that you decided to accept my suggestion of multiple scores, but I do have another suggestion about that. Add a 4th score for overall. That would be the equivalent to the single score and then you do not have to worry about how to compute a single score.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-14984372429426861462006-12-09T15:39:00.000-05:002006-12-09T15:39:00.000-05:00RE: CMSIX
Good riddance to bad rubbish. It's good...RE: CMSIX<br /><br />Good riddance to bad rubbish. It's good to know that Texans are a bunch of cryin'-ass quitters when they don't get their way. Maybe you can pop in every so often under your new pen name when you get tired of COMPLETE obscurity and tell us all of what a big loser feels like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-90556453148806053722006-12-09T14:54:00.000-05:002006-12-09T14:54:00.000-05:00So long as everything is applied equally across th...So long as everything is applied equally across the board, the actual number of the score is irrelevant to me. I judge how my story is doing by how it does compared to other stories, not the hard number, which will always be flawed.<br /><br />At least at first, readership will probably drop a bit, because people aren't going to catch on to the change, no matter how much you emphasize it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8900593.post-14342462555821567782006-12-09T14:46:00.000-05:002006-12-09T14:46:00.000-05:00I'm glad that you are going forward with the revam...I'm glad that you are going forward with the revamping of the scoring system. I think in the long run it will help the better writers because the rating will really mean something.<br /><br />Like others, I've noted that good stories were always in the "nines" and poor (in my opinion) were always very low, but worthwhile work was hard to find as the middle ground really did not seem to be a goodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com